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Edge Forums Activist Corner Marc Emery and Loretta Nall
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BuddyNugs
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calling someone hypocritical and naive is an attack on your logic and arguments not your character. You call me a fool for a spelling error, then give me neg karma. At least mine had something to do with the argument at hand.

Frankly Don. I don't give a damn what emery, Nall, or anyone does behind closed doors the fact is that they openly back, fund, and lead the movement. I have seen what you think, and you insist on bringing up useless points and slander, little else than criticism.


 
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Don, whatever the reason, you managed to get yourself banned more than once. If you want to believe that was someone elses fault then, once again, you are the victim.


...you are one of Loretta's first and most loyal sycophants


If by that you mean Loretta is a friend who I would defend against misinformed accusations or the rantings of a gadfly, then yes.


you found nothing whatsoever disrespectful about a "Marijuana Party"


That is correct.


that wasn't REALLY about marijuana


This is just your opinion. I disagree. The lighted marijuana cigarette is the torch of peace and individual liberty.


kingmaker -One who has the political power to influence the selection of a candidate for high public office.

The goal of the Marijuana Party has been to influence politics even if it's just registering people to vote.

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Don Quixote
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I don't give a damn what emery, Nall, or anyone does behind closed doors

I'm not talking about what happened behind closed doors. I'm talking about what Loretta posted and Emery posted on the internet in CC forums and in Emery's jail blogs. In his jail blogs he posted that Terry Nall spent $20,000 on a penis implant.

And when Loretta first started sending me emails, she told me Terry was 'doing well' on psychoactives and suggested I try them instead of cannabis - and these carpetbaggers pretend to support medical marijuana!!!

All the psychoactives produce SEXUAL DYSFUNCTION.

And Loretta posted the sex stuff in CC forums.

And then sent me an email to make sure I read it.


PSB...I have had enough of your garbage to last me a lifetime.

Normally I just ignore you but after this outright fabrication which you obviously pulled from your own demented ass (as that is where your head obviously resides)..

>>>If Terry Nall gave a damn about medical marijuana, maybe he would have tried it instead of taking pharmaceuticals and then spending $20,000 on a penis implant...<<<

I am contacting my attorney tomorrow and filing slander and libel charges against you.

Hope you have fun fighting those charges. Since I know who you are it will not be hard to have papers served on you...and you have nothing I want....because you have nothing as you are so fond of telling everyone....but making life harder for you will make me sleep easier at night.

I have saved this page and I have witnesses that you did indeed post these things (and have repeatedly posted similar lies all over the internet which I have also saved.)

I hope that you will be soon living in a box under a bridge in a very bad part of town with no computer access. That is now my second goal in life.


Go ahead and file your damn suit cuz...that's just the kind of bitch you are. THIS is the kind of stuff your contributions to Emery's legal fund go for folks....

You have no business trying to lead this movement...

...anyone that would screw Emery, write every lurid detail down and post it on the internet, and then go back to Alabama and act surprized when you get busted and they try to take your children is far to stupid to be in the position you're in.

But what's true without a doubt is that you don't give a DAMN about Medical Marijuana and the people for whom it is the difference between life and living death.


 
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I agree about the psychoactives, my GF has just kicked them, for that very reason, (sexual Dysfunction), and for the severe dependency they produce.
however there are better ways to handle it, you're coming off as a loon. I'm sure you are very passionate and intelligent but it doesn't help your case to be so argumentative and confrontational. If Mrs. Nall sucks, or is some kind of dis-info agent trying to discredit or hurt the movement then prove it. So far you haven’t. This all started with the argument that she is for total drug prohibition elimination, which I do not believe discredits the med movement, or the MJ movement in general. You then go into sexual posting and naked whores and penis implants. I just don't how that means Nall and Emery is anti-medical marijuana.


 
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The lawsuit was filed today PSB. You should have your papers in a week or so.

Also, there is nothing anywhere in anyones blogs about a penis implant. That is utter nonsense.

As for being a bitch....well that just isn't true. I can be provoked, as I have been in this case and I can retaliate in kind, as I have done in this case.

You have been able to roam free all over the internet for almost three years talking trash and trying to discredit me. I have let you rant and rave because I understand that you are severely mentally ill and apparently pot does not help you be a better person...but that is another story for another time.

But gloves are off now PSB and I am simply going to bury your whiney, negative, oh I am such a helpless victim who thinks the world should wipe my ass everytime I take a dump, ass under the equivalent of the Titanic in legal action.

People hate you for good reason...hell your own mother even hates your guts and refuses to let you move back home with her. And that says a lot. A boy who is so fucking black hearted and rotten his own mother don't even want him.

Normally I would feel sympathy for someone whose own mother doesn't want them....but in your case I feel damn near gleeful at such a cold thought.

You'll die alone with nothing but a mountain of legal bills and paperwork as witnesses to your passing and a testament to your legacy of spreading hate which is slightly more than you deserve.

Boy...further helping you self destruct is going to be grand fun.
Who's got the popcorn?

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Sadness for all involved.

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Don Quixote
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This is the REAL Loretta, and this is why I do get a bit loony when confronted with Emery & Co.



The lawsuit was filed today PSB. You should have your papers in a week or so.

Also, there is nothing anywhere in anyones blogs about a penis implant. That is utter nonsense.

As for being a bitch....well that just isn't true. I can be provoked, as I have been in this case and I can retaliate in kind, as I have done in this case.

You have been able to roam free all over the internet for almost three years talking trash and trying to discredit me. I have let you rant and rave because I understand that you are severely mentally ill and apparently pot does not help you be a better person...but that is another story for another time.

But gloves are off now PSB and I am simply going to bury your whiney, negative, oh I am such a helpless victim who thinks the world should wipe my ass everytime I take a dump, ass under the equivalent of the Titanic in legal action.

People hate you for good reason...hell your own mother even hates your guts and refuses to let you move back home with her. And that says a lot. A boy who is so fucking black hearted and rotten his own mother don't even want him.

Normally I would feel sympathy for someone whose own mother doesn't want them....but in your case I feel damn near gleeful at such a cold thought.

You'll die alone with nothing but a mountain of legal bills and paperwork as witnesses to your passing and a testament to your legacy of spreading hate which is slightly more than you deserve.

Boy...further helping you self destruct is going to be grand fun.
Who's got the popcorn?


Need I say more?


 
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Maybe you should sue Reefer Man Seeds cousin Loretta, they saw the blog as well, evidently. Reefer Man's message was how it came to my notice in the first place...



I AM SAYING DO NOT support CC or emery , they published my picture in a greenhouse once before , now there "agent" is infact a federal informant and a genuine nut Bar ! they never apolagize for anything fuck them oh ya they dont pay there fucking bills on time either so double fuck them and there media loving asses they care about the hungry machine that is the emery corporation more than they care about the blood toil and tears of the people who enable them to exist , Emery buys a cock inplant for lorretta nols hubby but does not pay the folks who have defended and supported him for years and who support families and take great risks to deliver seeds to him .el güero So where does this leave you RM? Have you stopped doing business with Emery or do you just have a problem with one of the many sycophantic eunuchs that he surrounds himself with?" el güero does this answer your question? RM

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Unfortunately, I don't have the computer time to find a copy of the blog right now, or properly compose and edit a post. And I'm sure you've made sure the original has been deleted, just like you made sure your Emery escapades were deleted from the Stoner Sexuality section of CC forums after *I* pointed out it wouldn't be a good idea for the Lew Rockwell article to come out with THAT online. But you'll be happy to know that I did spend months sleeping under a bridge without computer access already...


Pete BradyFor those of you who have not spent 11 years interviewing and working with every major pot activist and profiteer, let me tell you a little secret: the pot industry and movement are totally corrupt, and full of backstabbing, lying assholes. It's not a bunch of peaceful hippies growing herb and feeling the love of Jah, it's mostly money, ego, turf, viciousness and infighting. Most of the people I have met in this so-called movement are fakes and liars, and I have had to write articles that protected these people by leaving out the truth and only writing what their public relations/advertising/ego/security needs wanted me to write. I have written articles about people who were growing for massive profit in mansions in Southern Cal, but my articles made them look like absolute heroes who were giving the pot away as a mission of mercy. NOBODY has ever been busted because they met met or because I wrote about them. Instead, I have protected people, even people who treated me like dirt.

The people you see in pot magazines and on these forums who have fake names and act like heroes- most of them in their personal and business lives are hugely fucked up people who are vicious, cruel, dishonest, angry, unhealthy, and weird. I totally repudiate the lies and persona of people like Emery, Bubbleman, Chris Bennett, and others who slag me, and I have kept silent about what I know about these people from the inside. These slaggers are people whom I have written and spoken favorably about : I promoted Bubbleman's bags (http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2642.html) and Bennett's Bible books, and Emery's seeds, and they reward me by backstabbing me. All I can say is, the marijuana industry is ugly and sad, it is Babylon. It is not any different from any other cut-throat industry, and in many ways, because prohibition attracts misfits and criminals who are dangerous and marginal, it is worse than other industries. I am glad I don't work for Cannabis Culture anymore. I am glad I don't have to associate with Bubbleman, Bennett, Emery, or any of them who are slagging me now. Of the approximately 3000 people I have met as a pot journalist, very few are solid, healthy, ethical people. Nol Van Schaik and Dennis Peron are two examples of people who have courage, honesty and ethics...I wish there was more people like them.

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LorettaNall
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Oh, so you saw something on a site run by someone who was angry at Marc and swallowed it hook, line and sinker and now, for being so stupid, you have a lawsuit coming your way.

Just like you to blame others for your stupidity, ignorance and willful laziness.

You are nothing but a welfare pig swilling at the trough of American taxpayers money.

If you have the energy to expend trolling the internet looking for an opportunity to be malcontent, even when it is detrimental to your wishes, then surely you have the energy to work a regular job and quit swilling at the trough of the American taxpayer.

Here in Alabama if you have the internet/cable then you can be disqualified from receiving food stamps. Or at the very least your food stamp allotment will be reduced. Is this the case in California?
I believe I will endeavour to find out. If you can afford to run your pie hole online then that is a good $40 a month American taxpayers should not have to pay for your lazy ungrateful ass to eat on our dime.

Be gone with you malcontant socialist swine. You are the epitome what is wrong with this country.

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Originally posted by LorettaNall
Here in Alabama if you have the internet/cable then you can be disqualified from receiving food stamps. Or at the very least your food stamp allotment will be reduced. Is this the case in California?
I believe I will endeavour to find out. If you can afford to run your pie hole online then that is a good $40 a month American taxpayers should not have to pay for your lazy ungrateful ass to eat on our dime.

Be gone with you malcontant socialist swine. You are the epitome what is wrong with this country.


Would you really put your energy in doing that? Sounds like snitching to me, and where I come from, that's simply not done, whatever excuse, it's worthless. Don't let your anger take over your common sense.

me thinks it would be a good advice to you to smoke a joint, relax and take a few deep breaths before you get yourself all wind up again.

Here in Amsterdam we say "The soup never gets eaten as hot as it comes on the table".

have a happy day,

Ferre

ps, I reckon you don't like socialists, too bad as they are about the only ones on this planet who really act against the drugs war.


 
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BTW, I also want all drug use legalized. I do not use any powders myself but anyone with some knowledge on the facts of the drugs war will come to the conclusion that this war causes more misery than the drugs itself, it has simply created crime and has not done anything to reduce any social problems coming forth from drugs at all.

Do some reading on www.encod.org and see how many NGO's are fighting to get more humane laws for drugs and do some research on "harm reduction" if you hadn't found out yourself yet.

Sure, crack, heroine and a lot other drugs have the potential to cause health problems, but prohibition has proven to create unacceptable crime.


 
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Don Quixote
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Would you really put your energy in doing that?

This is why I've refused to have anything to do with them and suffered whatever it took to try to warn medical patients and marijuana activists about them over the years.

Sounds like snitching to me

Duh. I wouldn't be suprised if a lot of my current and past problems aren't due to these people. If they would threaten me in public in such a fashion...


If you can afford to run your pie hole online then that is a good $40 a month American taxpayers should not have to pay for your lazy ungrateful ass to eat on our dime.


This is the REAL Loretta, and this is what Emery & Co are REALLY like.

Tanya Harding with a joint this movement does NOT need.

Make a copy folks. She'll say it never happened next month...if she waits that long.


 
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>>>This is why I've refused to have anything to do with them and suffered whatever it took to try to warn medical patients and marijuana activists about them over the years.<<<

Not so.
When I first started the USMJP some three years ago now I asked you if you were interested in heading up the California Party. I understood that you had some limited experience in activism and that you had a passion for change in the laws.

So I asked you if you wanted to head up the party and you said to let you think about it.

A few days later you got back to me and said you were afraid to start one there. You had just moved to a new place and you thought your landlord would kick you out if she learned of any poitical activity.

So I found someone else to do it ( a much better choice too..level headed...smart and compassionate) and as soon as I posted that there was a California Marijuana Party you went apeshit (and remain so to this day by all indications) and began this three year obesession to try and sabotage everything I do.

You have not been successful, by the way. People look at my work and know all that they need to know about where my priorities lie. I can't say the same for you.


>>>Duh. I wouldn't be suprised if a lot of my current and past problems aren't due to these people. If they would threaten me in public in such a fashion...<<<

Oh please spare us Craig! No one ever even thinks of you till you raise your venomous head and start spitting poison in all directions. You would cut off your nose to spite your face.

Does the thought of getting nailed for food stamp fraud scare you? I bet it does. That you should have to work for a living is probably about more than you can stand. Lazy Welfare pig!

As for tboats question about socialism....I am TOTALLY AGAIINST SOCIALISM.
The federal government has too much control over our daily lives already. Socialism would give them total control and that is not an option.

Socialist activists though are generally very motivated and active in the cause and I agree with you tboat that they are against the drug war. I work with a large number of them.

I disagree that alerting the California authorities that someone might possibly be committing food stamp fraud is "snitching". That kind of fraud costs all of us money that we could use to feed our own families.
I am not againist this kind of aid for the elderly and infirm but Criag is neither. He is simply a hateful, miserable soul who draws negative attention to himself by attacking others.
He should not act so surprised that someone has finally gotten a bait of it and has taken action.

You reap what you sow there Craig.
Remember that, ok?

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I have noticed that a lot of libertarians are against their evil boogy man named socialism, that it seams most libertarians want eradicated from the dictionary. could this be, because at that one time in thier life when they needed help, the government said no?

Second off, directly from thier pathetic .ca web site:
"But we disagree. Instead, we believe in personal responsiblity, free markets and freedom of choice because all of us have the natural right to choose what's best for ourselves and for our families. We need less government."

We had unregulated freemarkets decades to centuries ago, thats when we had serfs and workhouses.

Those capitalists are greedy, if you let them , they will sell seeds for over $400 per ten. If they had theor way, they would take out the competition and start selling seeds for tens of thousands per seed.

Second of all, they believe socialism that gives us standard roads and such is a big bad bogie man that needs to be censored from the dictionary.

Did your parents throw you out of the house to fend for yourself the day your were born?
Probably not, and that probably is because of Socialism! It is a socialistic act to pay for everything a child needs. Even crappy foster parents do this.

Under the old Capitalistic system, the poor usually sold their children into the work house.

No, even the rich enjoy the benefits of that which socialism gives to a Nation. For even they pay for their children’s upbringing and food and clothes. Why? Because even they know that Socialism works great, and that everyone enjoys its benefits.

Driven on a road lately? Socialistic policies help put those roads there. Used a bus or a car? Thanks to policies of socialism those buses and cars are there.

If left to the capitalists and the righties of the world, there would be no world. Just look at the rightie warmongering nations of yore for what the unbridled capitalism brings to people. Horrors like serfs! child slave labor! and well slavery itself was a product of the right side of the political spectrum where ugly things like fascism dwell.

socialism is where the people through government own some of the means of production. Socialism has also been describe as a state of flux or change.

Capitalism is where the capitalist owns the means of production.

Like roads, which help businesses produce and sell thier good that are manufactured by the worker working on the means of production, like a assembly line.

Those roads, are there, because of course, of that great thing named socialism. Lucky here in Canada most of those roads are standard sizes, with standard signs and such. That’s thanks to socialism. Under a more righty system, like France use to have, those roads would all be different, and there would be a tax issued by the owner of every house you passed. Go read the history books on Frances road system if you do not believe me.

Socialism, allows taxes to be raised to be spent on the common good of all. Of course once in a while we get some greedy capitalists in there and then we have things like Gomery inquiries and the selling out of our sovereignty! Or things Like people been exported to foreign lands for barbaric treatment for selling the healthiest food there is(Hemp seeds.)

When Socialism works, we tend to have good things like Armies that protect us from invading hordes of pirates from the south!, Socialism gives us things like schools, where people can learn and make things like an Avro Arrow.

Hospitals, laws governing the quality of food and drink make sure people are not dying and rotting in the streets all over.

Even the hurricane katrina in the states shows that socialism works.

Over 50 Billion dollars have been appropriated from the tax payer to help out those effected by the disaster. And that is very socialistic. The Capitalistic way would be to send in no help, and let the second civil war start. And then of course sell armaments to both sides!

Another great example of Socialism at work, would be Mr. scumery. Mr. scumery used the ownership of the means of production to raise capital funds that were then divested to others who used those fund to create social change. He (Mr. scumery)in a way, set up his own social activist financial help center, where those who needed funds for activism were granted those funds.

Now one may argue that is a Capitalist system, where the funds are controlled and only spent on certain things, but of course any money received by anyone has to be spent that way, within the rules of the system.

People have all kinds of opinions on how socialism fails , is no good, and stuff like the totalitarian dictatorships that Russia had was communism, which it is not nor was ever close to being.

Socialism gives us armies to protect the nation from invading pirates from the south, It gives us laws and rules and regulations so the buyer does not have to be aware all the time of things like poisoned foods, and toxic products. Yes, some savages will sell substandard goods that will kill people if there was no socialistic policies like rules and regulations with a government to makes sure the savages that want to rob and pillage can not.
Socialism gives us things like Social dances, and society, and social studies where we can learn about the benefits of great things like socialism and the horrors of bad things like fascism that tries to boot stomp marijuana into a shallow grave.
Fascism is where a select few own the means of production and those same select few are the ones that have the ear of government and the help of government.
Communism is where the people who are the government own the means of production and have not been seen here on this planet amongst humans except since the hunter gathering age of mankind, and in disaster zones, where people revert to an almost hunter gather stage of survival.
Socialism is where there is a mixture of the ownership(government owns some, private people own some) of the means of production and the people have the ear of the government

Socialism is excellent it works, it’s better than the feudal age or the industrial age, and it gives the majority a better standard of living when it works and is not dominated by greedy self serving trash that kills the planet for the betterment of a few.

Socialism it works .


 
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